Cam’ron is currently traveling all over, tearing venue after venue down as the headlining act on the annual Smoker’s Club Tour, and the Human Serviette, Nardwuar, caught up with Killa Cam in Vancouver to talk shop about a myriad of topics, both current and throwback.

The hilarious conversation canvasses the rap Cam wrote as he bid farewell to middle school–which he impressively performs–and the song that was born when Juelz Santana convinced Cam to swipe a beat from Just Blaze (“Oh Boy”). The Harlem rep also tells a fascinating story about his Paid In Full audition, to which he showed up with a real gun. Needless to say, he got the part.

Watch the full interview above.